Tesco ASBO

The public pavement outside Tesco?

I have long complained of the anti social behaviour of Tesco and the stranglehold they now have in Westminster, the Borough which was run in a discreditable fashion by Dame Shirley Porter, the daughter of their founder Sir Jack Cohen. Dame Shirley Porter in 2004 paid £12m into Westminster Council's bank account in settlement of the surcharge for her role in the homes for vote’s scandal.

http://daithaic.blogspot.com/2007/11/tesco-supermarket-which-arte.html

The former leader of the local authority had played a key role in a scheme that sold off council homes to potential Tory voters. She originally faced a judgement debt of some £27m plus interest and costs, following a prolonged legal battle. But she was offered a deal to end the long running saga. The gerrymandering scandal relates to a decision in July 1987 by Westminster to sell 500 homes each year under a policy called "building stable communities".

District Auditor John Magill later accused Dame Shirley and a former colleague, David Weeks, of "wilful misconduct" and "disgraceful and improper gerrymandering" following an investigation. The issue went to the House of Lords and Dame Shirley and Mr Weeks were told to repay the losses claimed by the council. The Tesco's heiress then claimed she had assets of just £300,000 but Westminster City Council engaged in a long-fought legal battle to force her to pay. That included getting overseas assets frozen.


Tesco subcontracts its anti social behaviour to logistics companies who mainly employ non-UK drivers as in this truck; Reg. No; KE56FRC

Amongst the anti-social behaviour I’ve highlighted is the Tesco Local Store at the corner of Melcombe and Glentworth Street near Baker St. Station in Marylebone. Remarkably Tesco even converted this store and put up signage without even bothering to trouble local democracy with a planning application.

“2) As you are aware, the existing Tesco’s shopfront installed at the site is not lawful. You will therefore need to submit drawings showing the site before the installation of this shopfront.”

Email from Westminster Planning Officer Emily Wade to Tesco’s legal representative Tim Ryder of Allsop Verrill LLP, 25th January 2007.

Tesco “Local” stores in Westminster don’t give much hope that they are good neighbours, indeed they seem to be engaging in anti social behaviour. At the corner of Melcombe and Glentworth Street near Baker St. Station in Marylebone a Tesco “Local” opened when they bought over Shepherds, a chain of neighbourhood stores. Along this footpath between 8 and 9 each morning 4,500 people walk the short distance from Marylebone to Baker Street. At the Tesco store a large delivery truck is always parked on a double yellow line directly on the corner, blocking off the ramp for disabled access at the corner and making it “blind” to turning traffic and adding to the danger by forcing pedestrians onto the roadway. To park in this space by the goods door for the shop these large trucks have to line up across the main road, blocking the traffic and reverse into the space across the pedestrian crossing. This they do without any “points man” to ensure the safety of pedestrians and turning traffic. Frequently there are other similarly sized trucks parked on double yellow lines waiting for their turn in the non “Loading Bay” causing further detriment to the area.



In addition Westminster Council have been attempting (Application 06/09798/FULL) to get Tesco to improve disabled access to this “local” store, but to no avail. Not only are they persistently blocking access to the disabled ramp on the public pavement on this busy crossing but they have refused to provided level access to the store as required under Phase III of the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) 1995 which applies to new and converted premises after October 2005.

"That conditional permission be granted subject to the informative on disabled access being considerably strenghtened to express the Council's concern at the proposed arrangements and to strongly encourage Tesco to improve arrangements within the boundary of the premises .............."

Planning Applications Sub-Committee 3
31 May 2007

If the Government wants to talk about a "Respect Agenda" let it talk about the disgraceful premise of the DDA that "the wobbly people" (You know, The Aged, The infirm, the economically inactive) can sue to enforce their "rights" under the Act. Contrast that with the "Accessible America" legislation in the USA where non-compliance is a criminal offence. Remarkably the same planning decision only restricts deliveries to this store before 7.00 am on weekdays and 9.00 am at weekends and bank holidays.

And then there is the lack of consideration for others, delivering during peak hours, using large trucks, delivering on 10 / 15 trucks per day because these are on multi-drops from different suppliers and only a few pallets come off each truck. The Tesco staff are “only doing their job”, the drivers are agency drivers from outsourced logistics companies and you’ve guessed it, they are “only doing their job”, and the vulture like parking wardens in Westminster who are anxious to fill their quota with tickets elsewhere come to an arrangement with the Tesco stores. Failing that the drivers leave their first ticket of the day on the windscreen so wardens think they have already been ticketed. Clearly “Green” Tesco could lessen the impact by delivering off peak, using smaller vehicles and doing single drop deliveries but clearly they feel no need to do this and equally clearly they are under no pressure from Westminster Council or the Metropolitan Police to change their ways. No danger then of Westminster Council looking for an ASBO in respect of Tesco’s expropriation of public property to private use.


Truck No; 614564 - There is nothing to tell you who operates this vehicle or a number to contact

Westminster Councillor Carolyn Keen has been a persistent critic of this peculiarly anti-social neighbourhood store;

“There have been long running problems with deliveries and servicing at this branch of Tesco. Any permission must restrict the number of vehicles at any one time and the times of delivery as well as the problem of cages being stored on the footpath and trundled back and forwards.”

Councillor Keen, Planning Report; 31 May 2007.

Contrast this with the situation when I (increasingly rarely) use the car park of my local Tesco branch which has been put on steroids and is now a Tesco Extra open 24 hours a day. A big yellow sign on the way in informs me that by using their car park I agree my car registration can be photographed, machine read and recorded and if I stay longer than 3 hours that they can issue me with that strangest of creatures, a “Civil Penalty Notice” for 70 pounds and I consent to them applying to the DVLA for my details if they need to do this. Consider the arrogance of this proposition, personal data I have provided to the Government out of a legal obligation will be provided to a mega Supermarket chain to charge me a "penalty" for staying too long in their car park. And I consent to this and much more by using “their” property.If this is not an unfair contract term, what is?


Tesco - Your corner parking shop

As the pictures show Tesco is still abusing public space, parking on a corner on double yellow lines, making pedestrians dangerously walk out onto a road at a blind corner and blocking a disabled ramp on the pavement.

Is it time for Westminster Council to consider a Tesco ASBO?


Tesco forcing pedestrians onto the road and blocking the disabled ramp

Falling Comets

There is Blood on British High streets as the declining consumer retail spend is cannibalised by deep across the board discounting by all the major retailers. Marks and Spencer is cutting prices in its clothing and homeware departments by 20% for one day only on Thursday, its first one-day sale for four years. "The customer is not conditioned to expect M&S to do these things very often," retail analyst Fraser Ramzan, of Nomura, said. Some M&S stores will stay open until midnight for the discount day. BHS reacted to this unprecedented deep discounting by Marks and Sparks by launching a 3 day 30% discount event the very next day and Debenhams launched a 2 day 25% discount event whilst the same day Mark One, the fashion retailer, announced it had appointed administrators, no doubt the latest of many such retail failures.

Yesterday Sainsbury advertised 1 litre of Bailey’s Irish Cream Liqueur at £10, down from £17.99, today Tesco hit back with one litre at £8.00. I don’t like Tesco (http://daithaic.blogspot.com/2007/11/tesco-supermarket-which-arte.html ) but nobody can accuse them of being slow in responding to competition. M & S launched two dine in for £10.00 for a main course, side dish, desert and a bottle of wine for two, Tesco have launched a similar offer for £9.00 with wine and £5.00 without. Meanwhile Tesco have responded to the discounter challenge from Aldi, Lidl and Netto by branding themselves as “Britain’s Biggest Discounter” and launching copy cat ranges. Truly, in 2008 Credit Crunch Land retailing is strictly for the brave!



Debenhams, Marks & Spencer and Sir Philip Green's Arcadia clothes empire have all been slashing prices this week in an attempt to lure shoppers. The John Lewis decline extended the near 10% fall suffered in the previous week. Waitrose, the supermarket owned by John Lewis, joined the gloom. Its weekly sales fell 4.6%, a performance that suggests even large food retailers may have a tough Christmas. Retailers hope recent interest rate cuts will filter through to shoppers in time to rescue Christmas. The Bank of England is expected to cut rates again next month perhaps to 2.5%. Marks & Spencer saw like-for-like sales fall 6.1% in the 13 weeks to 27 September, while Arcadia Group, the owner of such retailers as Topshop, Dorothy Perkins and Burtons, experienced a 2.8% drop from 2007.

Sales on the UK's High Streets fell by a lower-than-expected 0.1% in October, figures from the Office for National Statistics have shown. The decline was much less than the 0.9% drop that analysts had predicted after sales fell by 0.4% in September. Retail sales grew at an annual rate of 1.9% compared with 1.7% in September. Many retailers have opted to hold pre-Christmas sales in a bid to boost spending at what should be their busiest time of year. Food sales rose 1% in October, but non-food sales fell 1.1%. Sales of household goods were down 1.5% and clothing sales fell 3.4%. "The drop in non-food sales clearly suggests that discretionary spending is taking a hit," said Vicky Redwood at Capital Economics.

The retail sector is continuing to suffer at the hands of the housing market slowdown with the Comet electrical goods chain warning yesterday that it is heading for a loss because of disappointing sales of refrigerators and washing machines. The company, part of the pan-European Kesa Electricals giant, believes that people are unable to move home and are not splashing out on new household appliances. Comet is also suffering because more people are shopping online. The scale of the setback during the three months of the year to the end of July surprised analysts. Sales at the chain of 251 stores fell by a thumping 9.9 per cent. This is far worse than the rival electrical chain Currys, which has reported sales 7 per cent lower.



However at the weekend the Celtic Sage at Comet’s out of town store in Aylesbury the Celtic Sage gained an insight into why Comet is such a poor customer proposition. The outlet is fine from the “Big White Shed” school of retailing and as you go in helpful young staff are on hand to assist and guide and the layout is clean and open with an air of activity to draw you in. However all the Sage wanted were 5 hoover bags for his Miele vacuum cleaner. These are £6.99 in John Lewis but here in Comet they were a whopping £11.99, an amazing 72% MORE EXPENSIVE than on the high street. I bought the bags under protest but made a mental note not to darken the door of Comet again for like every customer I know when I have been treated like a fool. So don’t bother to sell me a big ticket item, Barrow boy in Comet’s marketing department you have lost this customer’s loyalty. This is a mistake failing retail propositions make in thinking that customers will be price insensitive on accessories. Jessops the camera shop did the same to me by trying to charge twice what Argos would charge for rechargeable batteries; result I’ll never buy a big ticket item like a camera there.


The luxurious £11.99 vacuum bags from Comet!

Comet tries to defend its position and said it had protected margins by refusing to slash prices to draw buyers into its stores. "One day the cycle will tick up – in the meantime the business is refusing to chase unprofitable revenue," said an adviser in September 2008. Well I’m sure this sounded sensible then and he has left to pursue “new opportunities” elsewhere by now! Sales of laptops and televisions were more resilient, although the company admitted "we now anticipate Comet will make a loss in the first half". Kesa's arguments did not satisfy the stock market, which marked its shares down by nearly 10 per cent. Analysts slashed profit forecasts for the current year. Overall, Kesa, which takes in the French electrical chain Darty and other retail outlets operating throughout Belgium, Holland and Slovakia, reported a 4.7 fall in sales for the opening quarter. Darty fared better than Comet with sales down by 3.2 per cent, but conditions in France remain tough and the scale of the slowdown also caused concern in the market. Unconnected with the Celtic Sage’s rip off vacuum bags the CEO has fallen on his sword (sorry; “decided to retire”) and Jean-Noel Labroue will leave after a handover period to Thierry Falque-Pierrotin who is joining the Group on 5 January 2009 as Chief Executive Officer (CEO). I hope he does well but he will do it without my help, once you lose a customer he stays lost, and that is a home truth the Barrow Boys in marketing don’t understand and there is no point in paying large amounts of money to Finsbury PR whilst squandering customer loyalty!


Oxford Street

Another company which is surprised that shoppers are shunning it is The John Lewis Partnership. Weekly sales at John Lewis's flagship London stores lurched downwards once again as shoppers held off on making purchases in the hope prices will keep falling. The Oxford Street store that usually does well whatever the economic weather saw sales off 12.6%. Other stores in highly affluent areas also struggled. The Peter Jones branch at Sloane Square was down 18.6%. Cambridge down 26.7%, Bluewater off 15.7% and Kingston down 17.9% continued the trend. This was part of a wider slump at John Lewis in the week to 15 November when sales across the country fell 14% on average. This is the worst weekly sales performance in at least a year and suggests that consumers are ignoring the lure of sales in the expectation that stores will be forced to slash prices again before Christmas. Barry Matheson, the retailer's head of selling development, said: "There can be no getting away from it that last week was a disappointment. "We are not immune from the reality of the economic crisis that grasps every headline. “Even John Lewis's internet arm is struggling, with sales down 8.8%.”

Well Barry Matheson, let me help you to understand why sales in Oxford Street and elsewhere are falling. Recently I went into the store to buy a pair of gray casual trousers. In the large Menswear department there was only one type for sale, A German “No Name” Brand I had never heard of but actually manufactured in Bulgaria and a rather frumpy looking wool / polyester mix amazingly priced at £80.00. I left and down the road at M & S they had over 20 different types in stock and I bought a smart looking wool / cashmere mix for £35.00. Similarly I went into Peter Jones in Sloane Square to look for a casual jacket. The cheapest available was a £220 “designer” jacket that looked, well, like nothing. Strangely under their “Never knowingly undersold” policy a stereo would be more expensive in John Lewis’s Milton Keynes store than in Peter Jones, Sloane Square. For the price comparison policy applies to retailers within 3 miles so there are lots of electrical discounters for audio equipment in Chelsea but not in Buckinghamshire! Look for an Irish “Claddagh Ring” or Indian style jewellery in John Lewis you will be disappointed for its buyers’ are firmly stuck in a twin set and pearls Home Counties mindset. And it is owned by its staff which frequently translates into overstaffed shops where customers are ignored whilst staff cluster with each other or, as in Milton Keynes, have to take a ticket and queue to speak to a staff member, a rather quaint approach to people who want to give you money. Or I could mention the ludicrous pricing and slapdash service in the “Place to Eat” which is always chaotic and is by any standards a premium priced self service. No doubt this is lost on Andy Street, the CEO, as he leaves the John Lewis Palace at 171, Victoria Street in his chauffeur driven Jaguar, how retro!




Happy Xmas, John Lewis?

Earlier this month, the Bank of England cut interest rates to 3% from 4.5% in the hope of putting more money in consumers' pockets and encouraging them to spend. However, some analysts say that any positive effect - if it comes at all - will be too late to boost sales in the run-up to Christmas as rising unemployment has also dented consumer confidence. So expect the “Dog eats Dog” atmosphere to continue on the UK High Street. And in this climate consumers will be unforgiving to retailers who underestimate their intelligence. Be they Comet with its rip off “bits and pieces” and bias towards overpriced warranties and John Lewis which consistently gets its price point wrong and is that bit “too popular with itself.”

Tesco: The Supermarket which ate Westminster.

Tesco Truck parked on a corner, on a double yellow and blocking pedestrian ramp at corner of Glentworth and Dorset Street


Tesco stealing the public pavement

Westminster council has been accused of letting central London become "Tescoland" after giving the go-ahead for its 21st branch in the borough. Tesco is the major British supermarket chain which has now got over 32% market share in the United Kingdom. The bald figures on market share hide much detail as Tesco, which saw profits reach £2.25bn in the past year, has increasingly branched out into non-food goods, such as electrical goods, music and clothes and it has moved decisively into new areas including Financial Services, home delivery, internet and catalogue sales and Neighbourhood and Petrol Station stores.

It is notorious for its persistence on planning issues often battering Local authorities in the UK with multiple applications backed by top notch planning consultants and lawyers. On existing stores it has built it often enlarges car parks and selling space and moves to 24 hour opening to greatly increase the traffic, footfall and turnover from the original application approved by the local authorities. John Waite, who investigated the supermarket for Radio 4's Face the Facts, said Tesco "stand accused of dragging out the planning process, challenging enforcement orders, manipulating the planning laws, bending them, if you like, and breaking them on occasion."

One store opened for business in 2004, only for planning officers to discover it was 20% over the planned size. And a pile of waste from the building of a Buckinghamshire store remains in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. Tesco accepted it made a mistake in the first case and worked with the council to find a solution and was trying to quickly resolve the second case. The store which was over the planned size opened in 2004 is in Portwood, near Stockport in Greater Manchester. It is still open for business and is said to be turning over £1m a week. The company is currently filing a new planning application.

Last year during the building of a new Tesco superstore in Gerrards Cross in Buckinghamshire, building works collapsed on to a main railway commuter line. At the time Network Rail said Tesco and its contractors removed more than 25,000 tonnes of earth and some 60 metres of tunnel structure. However, 27,000 tonnes of waste from that collapse remains, and it is situated in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. It has been there a year, despite an order from the council, because of a continuing challenge from Tesco's contractor.

There are serious issues relating to competition in the UK relating both to its huge unused land bank where it is happy to let expensive sites lie fallow to block competition and the scale of purchases which allows it to squeeze suppliers.

In the town of Slough Tesco been accused of reducing competition and choice by the Competition Commission (CC) through its acquisition of a former Co-op owned site in, which the supermarket giant was ordered to stop developing in October 2007. In a detailed report listing its provisional findings, the Competition Commission says the purchase of the site in 2003, in close proximity to an existing 100,000 sq ft Tesco store, "has resulted in a substantial lessening of competition in the market for grocery retailing in Slough". Tesco bought the Co-op store four years ago as a temporary space to trade from until a redevelopment of an existing site had been completed. After making the transition, Tesco was ordered to sell the site by the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) but has failed to do so meaning it has no competitor in the area.

There are persistent complaints from organisations such as the National Farmer’s Union of Tesco abusing its market dominance and suppliers afraid to go public out of fear of losing business. The Office of Fair Trading (OFT) has set out findings indicating that Tesco, J Sainsbury, Wm Morrison, Safeway (now part of Wm Morrison) and Asda conspired with the dairy processors Arla, Dairy Crest, Lactalis McLelland, the Cheese Company and Wiseman to fix the prices of milk, butter and cheese. The OFT's provisional findings are that the companies engaged in price-fixing over a two-year period, in 2002 and 2003, and that the practice was harmful to consumers by restricting the competitive process, leading to higher prices.




The Tesco brand first appeared in 1924. The name came about after its founder Jack Cohen bought a shipment of tea from T.E. Stockwell. He made new labels using the first three letters of the supplier's name (TES), and the first two letters of his surname (CO), forming the word "TESCO". In 1973 he handed over the reins to his son-in-law Leslie Porter whose wife, Tesco heiress Dame Shirley Porter was Tory leader of Westminster Council in Central London in the Eighties. She was found guilty of political corruption in the "homes-for-votes" scandal and after a High Court battle she was forced to pay the council £12.3 million, a negotiated settlement less than a quarter of the amount which the Law Lords ruled as due. Westminster Council is still in Tory control and run by Sir Simon Milton, a protege of Dame Shirley Porter.

A plan for a Tesco in Lisson Grove near Marylebone station was cleared by the Conservative council this month (November 2007). There are already 20 Tescos in the borough, including 10 in and around Marylebone. The new store was opposed by the Marylebone Society and many shopkeepers, as well as 1,200 locals who signed a petition. Resident and Liberal Democrat activist Martin Thompson, who helped organise opposition to the store, said: "I am deeply disappointed. So many residents and shopkeepers have serious concerns. Why don't we just rebrand Westminster 'Tescoland' and have done with it?

"Not only has the council ignored so many local people, it has gone against its own officials. Its highways department warns the revised proposals for servicing the shop will cause traffic chaos and be a danger to children from the local primary school.

"This is a stupid decision that will be disastrous for the local economy." The site is only a few hundred yards from Marylebone High Street, praised as one of London's most diverse shopping streets in London - and already home to a Tesco.

However, Robert Davis, Cabinet member for planning on Westminster council, said: "This new store will make the shopping centre in Lisson Grove more attractive to residents and business and will help regenerate the area. We carefully considered all the feedback in relation to the scheme, and while we do recognise there was opposition to the application, the council did receive a number of letters in support. There was no strong evidence to support the claim that the proposed store would affect trade in the existing centre to warrant refusing planning permission."

He said Tesco had agreed to provide £100,000 towards improving local shop fronts, would fund roadwork’s in Hayes Place and CCTV cameras in Lisson Grove and would "work with local organisations to provide employment and training opportunities".

However two examples of these Tesco “Local” stores in Westminster don’t give much hope that they are good neighbours, indeed they seem to be engaging in anti social behaviour. At the corner of Dorset and Glentworth Street in Marylebone a Tesco “Local” opened when they bought over Cullen’s, a chain of neighbourhood stores. Along this footpath between 8 and 9 each morning 4,500 people walk the short distance from Marylebone to Baker Street. At the Tesco store a large delivery truck is always parked on a double yellow line directly on the corner, blocking off the ramp for disabled access at the corner and making it “blind” to turning traffic and adding to the danger by forcing pedestrians onto the roadway. To park in this space by the goods door for the shop these large trucks have to line up across the main road, blocking the traffic and reverse into the space across the pedestrian crossing. This they do without any “pointsman” to ensure the safety of pedestrians and turning traffic. Frequently there are other similarly sized trucks parked on double yellow lines waiting for there turn in the non “Loading Bay” causing further detriment to the area. In addition

In London’s lively Covent Garden there is a Tesco Metro on the corner of Garrick Street and New Row, a pedestrianised precinct. The goods door is at the side of the building on New Row. There is a similar story here with delivery trucks turning into Henrietta Street opposite and then reversing across the road (again without a points man for safety) and into the pedestrian precinct which is normally crowded with shoppers and tourists in this busy area. Once again the pavement is crowded with Tesco trolleys. In both cases we should remember we are not talking about them using Tesco property – We are talking about a Public Road and a Public Footpath. We are talking about clear hazards under the Road Traffic Act, reversing across public roads, not using a point’s man, parking on a corner, Parking in restricted areas, restricting the vision of other traffic and creating a hazard for pedestrians.

And then there is the lack of consideration for others, delivering during peak hours, using large trucks, delivering on 10 / 15 trucks per day because these are on multi-drops from different suppliers and only a few pallets come off each truck. The Tesco staff are “only doing their job”, the drivers are agency drivers from outsourced logistics companies and you’ve guessed it, they are “only doing their job”, and the vulture like parking wardens in Westminster who are anxious to fill their quota with tickets elsewhere come to an arrangement with the Tesco stores. Failing that the drivers leave their first ticket of the day on the windscreen so wardens think they have already been ticketed. Clearly “Green” Tesco could lesson the impact by delivering off peak, using smaller vehicles and doing single drop deliveries but clearly they feel no need to do this and equally clearly they are under no pressure from Westminster Council or the Metropolitan Police to change their ways. No danger then of Westminster Council looking for an ASBO in respect of Tesco’s expropriation of public property to private use.

Contrast this with the situation when I (increasingly rarely) use the car park of my local Tesco branch which has been put on steroids and is now a Tesco Extra open 24 hours a day. A big yellow sign on the way in informs me that by using their car park I agree my car registration can be photographed, machine read and recorded and if I stay longer than 3 hours that they can issue me with that strangest of creatures, a “Civil Penalty Notice” for 70 pounds and I consent to them applying to the DVLA for my details if they need to do this. Consider the arrogance of this proposition, personal data I have provided to the Government out of a legal obligation will be provided to a mega Supermarket chain to charge me a penalty for staying too long in their car park. And I consent to this and much more by using “their” property.

Tesco is a remarkable success story, first under Leslie Porter and Ian McLaurin and now under Terry Leahy, a scouser of Irish extraction. Its business achievements have been remarkable and from its modest headquarters in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, it has built a hugely competent and agile retail organisation which has been successful across all retail spectrums and in an increasing number of countries. However such success breeds hubris and arrogance and it is clear that Tesco is in many ways stifling competition and diversity in British retailing, down the whole length of the supply chain. It is clear that it has sucked business from traditional high streets and retailers and destroyed diversity as we head towards Clone Town Britain.

Nowhere is its hubris, arrogance and distortion more apparent than in Westminster, the borough run by the daughter of its founder for many years and now run by her interns. Its “neighbourhood” stores destroy neighbourhoods and the diversity and retail vitality which gives these neighbourhoods their vitality and attractiveness. It is a bad neighbour which cares not that its delivery patterns maximise disruption to the neighbourhoods it serves nor that it expropriates public roads and paths to its private use as it chases growth, profit and dominance. Tesco is maxed; nowhere more so than in its favourite borough of Westminster covering prime Central London from the houses of Parliament to Regent’s Park. Britain needs to restore the retail balance by rolling back Tesco. So let the roll back begin in the borough it ate first, let the roll back begin in Westminster.